Former Vice President Mike Pence took a grilling from ABC’s Jon Karl on Sunday, during which he was confronted with a recording of Donald Trump defending people who wanted to hang the vice president on January 6th, 2021. Karl rolled a tape of his interview with Trump from 2021, when the ex-president stuck up for Capitol rioters who were calling to lynch Pence. “I mean, he’s effectively justifying, or excusing, the actions of people who were calling for you to be hanged!” Karl said to Pence. “There is no excuse for the violence that took place at the Capitol on January 6th, and I’ll never diminish it as long as I live, but, look…The president’s wrong. He was wrong that day, and I actually hoped he would come around in time, Jon. That he would see the cadre of legal advisers he had him with had led him astray, and he hasn’t done so. i think it’s one of the reasons why this country just wants a fresh start,” Pence replied. “Does justifying those murderous chants, does that effectively disqualify him from being commander-in-chief again?” Karl asked. “I think that’s a judgment for the American people to make,” Pence said.
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